{"id":131,"date":"2004-04-30T15:48:35","date_gmt":"2004-04-30T13:48:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/weblog.bergersen.net\/jarle2\/?p=131"},"modified":"2004-04-30T15:48:35","modified_gmt":"2004-04-30T13:48:35","slug":"blogget-last-thursday-om-blogging","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/weblog.bergersen.net\/jarle\/2004\/04\/30\/blogget-last-thursday-om-blogging\/","title":{"rendered":"Blogget: Last Thursday om blogging"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"lastthursday.gif\" src=\"https:\/\/weblog.bergersen.net\/jarle\/arkiv\/lastthursday.gif\" width=\"200\" height=\"103\" border=\"1\" align=\"right\" vspace=\"3\" hspace=\"3\" \/>G\u00e5rsdagens tema p\u00e5 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lastthursday.no\/\">Last Thursday<\/a> var blogging. Sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let fra Last Thursday var &laquo;Blogging &#8211; et skritt n\u00e6rmere kilden?&raquo;, og man kan vel i korthet summer at b\u00e5de <a href=\"http:\/\/digme.typepad.com\/\">H\u00e5kon Styri<\/a> og Rafiq Charania ment at det gj\u00f8r man. P\u00e5l Nisja var ikke til stede, og selv om jeg fikk med meg at Rafiq fortalte hvorfor han ikke var der, m\u00e5 jeg innr\u00f8mme at jeg ikke fikk med meg \u00e5rsaken. Ganskje fordi det var en d\u00e5rlig unnskyldning?<br \/>\nJeg har fors\u00f8kt \u00e5 skrive litt om det som skjedde, b\u00e5de fra notater og fra minnet. Setter stor pris p\u00e5 tilbakemeldinger, korreksjoner etc.<br \/>\nH\u00e5kon har for\u00f8vrig allerede blogget om litt av det som var tema under foredraget. Linker finner du i det utvidede innlegget mitt.<br \/>\n[Oppdatering: 2. mai 2004 &#8211; Se nederst p\u00e5 det utvidede innlegget]<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2>H\u00e5kon Styri<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/weblog.bergersen.net\/jarle\/haakon.jpg\" onclick=\"window.open('https:\/\/weblog.bergersen.net\/jarle\/haakon.jpg','popup','width=1024,height=675,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/weblog.bergersen.net\/jarle\/haakon-tbn.jpg\" height=\"133\" width=\"202\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nH\u00e5kon startet seansen med \u00e5 snakke om hvorfor blogging har blitt popul\u00e6rt og listet opp noen f\u00e5 punkter<br \/>\nBlogging er popul\u00e6rt fordi:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Det er enkelt<\/li>\n<li>Har blitt enda enklere med blogghotell<\/li>\n<li>Enkelt brukergrensesnitt<\/li>\n<li>Det er et format med mange viktige funksjoner<\/li>\n<li>Semantisk web\n<ul>\n<li>rss<\/li>\n<li>rdf<\/li>\n<li>dc<\/li>\n<li>foaf<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Egnet for skjermformat<\/li>\n<li>Det oppfordres til linking<\/li>\n<li>Interaksjon med  kommentarer<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>H\u00e5kon lanserte et, for meg, nytt begrep:<br \/>\nGenerasjon I<br \/>\nDette er mennesker som er interaktive og prosumenter. (H\u00e5kons definisjon av Prosument er: produserende konsumenter<br \/>\nAntall blogger<br \/>\nDet er i dag en tilvekst p\u00e5 10.000 blogger i d\u00f8gnet. Tallene er bemerkelsesverdige. Se p\u00e5 hvor mange nye blogger som har kommet til de siste \u00e5rene:<br \/>\n2003: 2,5 millioner bloggere<br \/>\n2004: 8,8 millioner bloggere hittils, i USA.<br \/>\nMEN, etter 2 m\u00e5neder ligger 66% brakk. Det vil si at mange starter \u00e5 blogge, men holder p\u00e5 kun en kort tid og s\u00e5 ligger bloggene d\u00f8de.<br \/>\nH\u00e5kon mener dette kommer av at det \u00e5 holde en blogg for mange blir en utfording som blir for krevende. Blant \u00e5rsakene nevnte H\u00e5kon:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u00c5 skrive uten et publikum<\/li>\n<li>\u00c5 skrive uten et prosjekt<\/li>\n<li>\u00c5 skrive uten en id\u00e9<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Jeg hopper like godt over bloggologien og symbolmarkedet. Hvis H\u00e5kon har lyst kan han godt fors\u00f8ke \u00e5 ordlegge sine plansjer (som jeg dessverre ikke fikk tatt bilde av).<br \/>\nH\u00e5kon var ogs\u00e5 innom hvilken funksjon blogger har og i stadig st\u00f8rre grad f\u00e5r, i forbindelse med nettverk.<br \/>\nHan var innom svakhetene med &laquo;tradisjonelle&raquo; metoder for nettverking, som f.eks. Orkut som har blitt et vennemarked, og FOAF som ogs\u00e5 har sine svakheter. H\u00e5kon trakk frem at det er langt mer interessant \u00e5 se p\u00e5 hvem som  lenker til hvem i artikler og kommentarer.<br \/>\nEt av de mer interessante temaene i forhold til blogging som H\u00e5kon tok opp er bruk av bloggteknologi som arbeidsverkt\u00f8y. H\u00e5kon har i dag skrevet et eget innlegg om det han kaller <a href=\"http:\/\/digme.typepad.com\/blogg\/2004\/04\/dekretportal.html\">Dekretportal<\/a>, som igjen &#8211; raskt fortalt, er en beskrivelse av intranett som brukes til &laquo;omfangsrike og ofte tungleste skriv fra administrasjon og ledelse til alle ansatte&raquo;. H\u00e5kon konkluderer med at det beste nok ville v\u00e6re \u00e5 heller dra inn alle ansatte i en bedrift, f.eks. ved \u00e5 gi dem blogger.<br \/>\nBloggteknologi som arbeidsverkt\u00f8y<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>F\u00f8r : intranett &#8211; dekretportal for ledelsen<\/li>\n<li>N\u00e5 : hver medarbeider sin blogg<\/li>\n<li>H\u00e5kon ser for seg at intranett heller bruker blogg, wiki, p2p og andre verkt\u00f8y heller enn dagens tradisjonelle mer enveisrettede intranett<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Rafiq Charania<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/weblog.bergersen.net\/jarle\/rafiq.jpg\" onclick=\"window.open('https:\/\/weblog.bergersen.net\/jarle\/rafiq.jpg','popup','width=1024,height=964,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/weblog.bergersen.net\/jarle\/rafiq-tbn.jpg\" height=\"133\" width=\"141\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nBle introdusert som Bloggevangelist. Og jobber hos SwiftOffice og BlogSoft.<br \/>\nRafiq jobber daglig med blogging. Men har ingen egen personlig blogg! I min ydmyke oppfatning er det ikke lov \u00e5 kalle seg bloggevangelist og samtidig ikke ha egen blogg. Og det nytter ikke med d\u00e5rlige forklaringer om skomakerens barn ;-)<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/weblog.bergersen.net\/jarle\/per-og-rafiq.jpg\" onclick=\"window.open('https:\/\/weblog.bergersen.net\/jarle\/per-og-rafiq.jpg','popup','width=812,height=683,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=yes,left=0,top=0');return false\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/weblog.bergersen.net\/jarle\/per-og-rafiq-tbn.jpg\" height=\"133\" width=\"158\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nHeller ikke CTO (teknisk sjef) hos BlogSoft &#8211; Per Kleven &#8211; har egen blogg. Men de har iallefall en slags <a href=\"http:\/\/blogonblog.weblogg.no\/\">blog-blogg<\/a> p\u00e5 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.weblogg.no\/\">weblogg.no<\/a>.<br \/>\nRafiq snakket mye om hvordan weblogger er demokratiserende, ved at de gj\u00f8r det enklere for folk \u00e5 f\u00e5 egne hjemmesider og publisere. I tillegg er BlogSoft og Rafiq naturlig nok fokusert p\u00e5 marked og business. De har i dag allerede et par &laquo;bloggportaler&raquo; oppe, som har gjort blogging mer tilgjengelig for det norske folk: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sprayblogg.no\">SprayBlogg<\/a> og <a href=\"http:\/\/www.weblogg.no\">Weblogg.no<\/a><br \/>\nGutta fra BlogSoft fokuserte ogs\u00e5 p\u00e5 nye tjenester og muligheter med blogger. Og nevnte moblogging p\u00e5 Weblogg.no og SprayBlogg som eksempler. Man kan der blogge med MMS og SMS. I tillegg kommer det n\u00e5 en egen videoblogg tjeneste, basert p\u00e5 Flashcom for de som er interessert i s\u00e5nt. Enkelt fortalt bruker de Flash til \u00e5 vise og hente inn video fra brukerene. Alt man trenger er m.a.o et webkamera og en mikrofon &#8211; s\u00e5 kan man plutselig publisere videoblogginnlegg.<br \/>\nRafiq snakket om hvem som blogger:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Innflytelsesrike mennesker<\/li>\n<li>Urbane 25-34<\/li>\n<li>Metroseksuelle<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Personlig tror jeg mest han var ute etter \u00e5 f\u00e5 oss nerdete bloggere til \u00e5 f\u00f8le oss betydningsfulle ;-)<\/p>\n<h2>Konklusjon<\/h2>\n<p>Jeg synes det var et interessant foredrag om et emne som opptar meg. Denne gangen var det dessverre ikke s\u00e5 mange som ble med p\u00e5 pilsen og omgangstreff p\u00e5 Dubliner (eller s\u00e5 gikk jeg glipp av hvor de andre var). Etter m\u00f8tet var det stort sett H\u00e5kon, BlogSoft gutta og undertegnede som var igjen og diskuterte blogging.<br \/>\nPersonlig synes jeg det virker som om BlogSoft gutta har mange gode id\u00e9er og evne og mulighet til \u00e5 f\u00e5 gjennomf\u00f8rt dem. At de ser opp til SixApart og Typepad er heller ingen d\u00e5rlig indikasjon p\u00e5 ambisjonsniv\u00e5et. Skal bli spennende \u00e5 se p\u00e5 utviklingen av deres bloggtjenester.<\/p>\n<h2>Andre omtaler<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/digme.typepad.com\/blogg\/2004\/04\/dekretportal.html\">H\u00e5kon Styri: Dekretportal<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/digme.typepad.com\/blogg\/2004\/05\/bloggutfordring.html\">H\u00e5kon Styri: Forlatte blogger<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/huminf.uib.no\/~mfl061\/blog\/arkiv\/000244.html\">Utfordringer<\/a> &#8211; Marit skriver om utfordringene H\u00e5kon nevnte som gj\u00f8r at blogger d\u00f8r.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.kakeboksen.org\/archives\/000321.html\">Metatorsdag<\/a> &#8211; Morten skriver om foredraget, og legger spesielt vekt p\u00e5 hva de forskjellige foredragsholderene burde skjerpe seg p\u00e5. Han fikk ogs\u00e5 med seg hvorfor Nj\u00e5l ikke dukket opp..<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>G\u00e5rsdagens tema p\u00e5 Last Thursday var blogging. Sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let fra Last Thursday var &laquo;Blogging &#8211; et skritt n\u00e6rmere kilden?&raquo;, og man kan vel i korthet summer at b\u00e5de H\u00e5kon Styri og Rafiq Charania ment at det gj\u00f8r man. P\u00e5l Nisja var ikke til stede, og selv om jeg fikk med meg at Rafiq fortalte hvorfor han [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-131","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-foredrag","category-weblogger"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - 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